Very Cluttered. Too many photos
There are too many photographs. A lot of them are unnecessary, and a lot of them are simply terrible photos. signed comment added by Iknowthegoods (talk o contribs) 04:39, 25 May 2013
Aviation Institute Of Maintenance Kansas City Video
Colleges and Universities
There is one college that I attended that isn't included. I don't want it included necessarily because I attended but more for the fact that it is the only FAA Part 147 school to allow one to obtain an FAA Airframe and Power Plant license in the region. This means the accelerated program according to the FAA FARs allows someone to get the license in 18 months instead of the next minimal amount of time of 36 months. I propose adding "Aviation Institute of Maintenance" linked to "http://www.aviationmaintenance.edu/" This isn't something new as it has been around and used to be facilitated at the old TWA training facility off 31st Street and Terrace Street before moving in summer of 2007 to I-435 and Raytown Road in the old rental company facility across from the South exit from the Truman Sports Complex. Both locations Kansas City, MO, addresses. The1who (talk) 12:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Population Change
According to an article on KCMO's official web page, at http://www.kcmo.org/cco.nsf/web/020609, the US Census had underestimated the population of the city. As of Feburary 6, 2009, the US Census has changed its estimate for Kansas City to be 475,830 in 2009. So I am going to change to reflect the new population accordingly. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 04:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Stop Changing the Picture
You did not have authority to do that. It was settled before that we would use the first picture of the skyline from the north. Reasons are: 1) It makes the skyline look bigger and more profound 2) ALL major buildings inside the downtown loop are found in the north view 3) The view you have shows the uglier buildings such as the Longlines buildings (an eyesore) and the Federal Building. If someone wants to take a better pic from the north fine, but that is the best view I think we have. I am changing it back! If you really want a superior KC article, show a good pic of our skyline. We want to be represented the best possible way to people who view us from out of town, especially since we have a negative image of being associated in some way "Kansas", agriculture, and a "cow town" (Despite the fact we are the largest city in Missouri and a thriving metropolis of 2 million + people). If someone sees a profound skyline, which is the first thing you see in a city-- that will leave a lasting impression. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 00:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Importance Level
Kansas City is rated with small cities such as Wichita, Topeka, ect in "importance level" ranking. It should be ranked with peer cities like Denver, St. Louis, ect. Why are we given a "mid" importance level ranking despite a metro area of over 2 million people and having a major city status. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.142.218 (talk) 13:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I made the above post. After doing some looking into, Maddison Wisconsin was given "high" importance. That is ridiculous! Kansas City is definatley a major city in the US and is very important to the US economy. It has major cultural atractions and a population of over 2 million people, as well as being considered a major US city. I changed it's importance level to "high". --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 14:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Clay Chastain
This bugger doesn't deserve a mention in the Kansas City article and it is an insult to the city to even mention him. People don't need to know he initiated the ballot. Adding his name to the article does nothing except add a piece of information that isn't important. Especially when he is just a crazy piece of crap who is doing a lot more harm than good to the light rail plan in Kansas City. He doesn't deserve ANY mention in the Kansas City article and should be wiped from ANY connection to our wonderful city. And he is NOT an activist! He is only a crazy guy who doesn't know jack about light rail, and has always been crazy. He is worthless and calling him an activist is only a compliment to him. People in Kansas City don't recognize him as an activist. They also did not vote for his plan, they voted for the idea of light rail. They could care less if his ideas went through. He belongs back in Virginia and needs to stay out of our beautiful city. --KCMODevin 15:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
No he doesn't, and light rail does belong in Kansas City... He may have been the chief engineer, but he is not smart enough and doesn't know enough about the Kansas City area. He does not deserve a mention. He did nothing in regards to infrastructure, and the only layout he gave was a completely flawed plan. The voters were NOT voting for his idea, they were voting for light rail... The voters would accept a city planned light rail plan. This guy is nothing more than a quack, and it's an insult to KCMO to include him in this article.. He is not an activist, and like I said, to call him one is only a complement to him and an insult to our city. He is not light rail in Kansas City, and you're being butt buddies with him doesn't change that. Also, my edit has been changed to be NPOV. IT states facts found in the various referenced/sourced newspaper articles that are relevant and important. Also, active, sign your comments...--KCMODevin 20:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- If I ask 10 Kansas Citians who comes to mind first when talking about light rail, I bet Chastain would be the leader by far. Right or wrong, he is the public face of the light rail movement in Kansas City. Changing that is a matter for political activism, not an edit war on an encyclopedia trying to report facts. (ESkog)(Talk) 20:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Soon he won't be though, and I will be more than happy to wipe him off the face of this article when his plan fails and the city-backed plan goes forward. --KCMODevin 20:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Response to Clay Chastain
Nobody has the right to decide whether somoene is worthy or not of being listed on wikipedia. Facts are Clay Chastain is intimately involved with the Kansas City Light Rail initiative. The fact that he had a plan placed on a ballot and it actually was voted in by residents enforces that idea. It's history and it should be documented accordingly to its relevance. Any personal feelings in regards to any political figure or citizen whether positive or negative are not to interfere with the neutrality of Wikipedia. wikipedia exists for the sole purpose of educating people. We do not have the right to dilute relevant information to a topic regardless of how we feel for somoene.
ESkog had a perfect example. Adolf Hitler is a large part of the history of Germany. Regardless of how we feel in regards to his crimes and his opressive rulership it is sitll history and cannot be erased. If anyone has negative remarks to share, they should be voiced on a different forum. Kcuello (talk) 21:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Also with this said, nobody should be proactively looking to list Clay Chastain's name unless the portion of news in relation to light rail directly involves him. I will personally follow these developments and anyone seen removing relevant information will be reported to administrators. Kcuello (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Intro Comment only - no changes made
The intro says "Kansas City... is the largest city in the U.S. state of Missouri". This is technically true, but it's misleading and immediately sounds incorrect to this reader. I assume it sounds misleading to many other readers familiar with the area and may cast doubt upon the article's accuracy in general.
St. Louis is much bigger and less of its population lives outside Missouri. Based on the "Greater St. Louis" and the "Kansas City metropolitan area" wikipedia articles, only 24% of St. Louis' ~2.9mm residents live in Illinois, while 42% of KC's ~2.0mm residents live in Kansas. I know that is not the specific claim of the sentence as-is, but it is another indicator that the phrase misrepresents the sizes of MO's two biggest cities.76.92.124.62 (talk) 03:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Intro rework
I rewrote the intro to be a little more streamlined and to put a little more emphasis on things like KCs contribution to culture (civil war, jazz, blues and BBQ) and moved the mention of the city's tap water being clean which, though interesting, embarrassed me a little to have in the opening paragraph. Kansas city has made much interesting and varied history and has made more contributions to the national stage than the old intro let on. I also glanced at the rest of the article and removed somethings that are located in the metro are not the city itself. The article will look much more impressive if it seems that it does not have an agenda, and is simply telling it as it is.
I've also changed the wording about having the second most fountains in the world from a fact to a claim, as we still need a reliable third-part source that is not a regurgitation of the tourism boards advertising. Grey Wanderer | Talk 20:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
On my list of things to do is to bring the page up to the standards described on Wikiproject cities. The page isn't far away but needs major sourcing aand the famous people and schools section need to be pared down a lot. Individual schools should not be listed, school districts however might. with the amount of people from kc with wikipedia pages we really just need a link to the list or category of notable citizens not list them on the article itself. Grey Wanderer | Talk 20:20, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Crime Exaggerated
The crime artile is much very exaggerated, especially in the article of the entire metropolitin area having bad crime. Johnson county is relatively crime free when compared to the inner city of KCMO and KCK. this is proven especially with the fact that suburban cities Overland Park and Olathe Kansas are both in the top 15 best places to live. The link with that article is dead and no longer active. Crime rating in Olathe, Overland Park, Lenexa, Lee's Summit, and Shawnee is very low. No facts to support that crime is on an increase because of 2 rappers being shot. I have deleted that portion of the crime section. I know for sure that New Orleans, Houston (needs 500 more cops), St. Louis, Detroit and Miami are highly unsafe. Thats 5 metro areas that are for sure worse off in crime than KC metro. More up to date informaiton should be listed.Kcuello 22:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Also, not all of the inner-city has bad crime, which is a falsehood that many sheltered people from the SW suburbs tend to believe. Only sections of the inner-city have bad homicide rates. KCMODevin 13:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I am a former resident of Kansas City MO. and that dates back to July of this year. As a former resident of City market and my parents living in "Northeast" I highly contest the exaggerations of crime. Once again, the listing of 2 rapeprs that obviusly have no bearing on crime spike is still highly questionable. I see it as more of a ploy to popularize the rappers. Kcuello 22:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I would ask that any proof consist of the following:
1) Direct reference to both rappers.
2) Prove it is the cause of gang wars that have increased crime
3) be as recent as within the last 6 mnths to a year.
Otherwise the article would be considered out of date. this event occurred mroe than 3 years ago. I will remove the post until there are facts to prove such claims.Kcuello (talk) 15:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
There is too much attention to crime in this section. Just note the most recent crime stats and be done with it. It really is a debbie downer the way it is presented and is clearly written by someone who wants to emphasize that KCMO is a dirty crime ridden city overall, which is pretty much focused on just the East Side. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.62.168 (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Recent Edits to Kansas City Page
Recent edits over the past few weeks have subtantially improved this article. I just wanted to leave a big Kudos and thank you for all of those that have worked very hard to make this article informatice and respectable! Kcuello (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The Little Apple
Discussion moved to Talk:The Little Apple.
Underground City
Kansas City has the world's largest "undergound cities", SubTropolis in particular, although several facilities exist. Hunt Midwest owns SubTropolis and recently built another similar facility underneath Kansas City Southern's new intermodal hub and free trade zone and customs port-of-entry into the United States (rails from Mexico to Kansas City currently have free trade designation, and the FTAA superhighway (Trans-Texas Corridor) will bring free trade truck transport to KC's free trade zones and their massive underground distribution centers). ["Kansas City Southern and partners to launch intermodal hub", RANDOLPH HEASTER. Published on 2008-03-14, Page C1, Kansas City Star, The (MO). http://www.topix.com/content/kri/2008/03/kansas-city-southern-and-partners-to-launch-intermodal-hub] http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070827/hayes
How should we talk about this stuff in the article? Just put SubTropolis in the "Sites of interest" list? Even many Kansas City natives do not know about Kansas City's underground city, I think it at least deserves a mention in the article. We have a massive limestone shelf (thought to be 20 miles deep) and some of the oldest exposed igneous rock on Earth that has provided for many unique facilities under the Kansas City metropolitan area. Jizzbug (talk) 19:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- When the 2001 anthrax attacks occurred, Kansas City's underground US Postal Service pre-sort processing center (the largest in the United States) was contaminated with anthrax.
- Kansas City as underground nuclear weapons manufacturies operated by Honeywell and missile manufacturies operated by others. Honeywell is proposing the construction of a new nuclear weapons plant in the Kansas City metropolitan area. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Jizzbug (talk o contribs) 14:48, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Sister Cities
Hanover Germany was listed on the Sister Sities International webpage. I have promptly added it to the list of sister cities Kansas City has listed. Kcuello (talk) 21:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
For some reason, the Hanover link was removed. In attempting to restore the link, i am getting a "blacklisted" error on the following post, even though there is no hyperlink involved. Here is the reference behind the edit http://www.sister-cities.org/icrc/directory/usa/MO Kcuello (talk) 20:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- ==Sister Cities==*
Kansas City has 13 sister Cities:
- Arusha, Tanzania
- Freetown, Sierra Leone
- Guadalajara, Mexico
- Kurashiki, Japan
- Metz, France
- Morelia, Mexico
- Port Harcourt, Nigeria
- Ramla, Israel
- San Nicolas de los Garza, Mexico
- Seville, Spain
- Tainan City, Taiwan
- Xi'an, People's Republic of China
- Hanover, Germany
How about adding an explanation of what "Sister Cities" means and how they're obtained? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.166.210 (talk) 17:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
MO County Map and Kansas City Close-up Map
Why in the world is Clay County highlighted in the MO State map on the main page, right beside an equally silly close-up of an emboldened Clay County? Is not the downtown district and city headquarters in Jackson County? Auror (talk) 00:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
LOL. . . what a catch! Kcuello (talk) 15:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Cleanup tag
The article needs many more references, some copyediting, and reference formatting fixes using citation templates. I also noticed that there are many repetative links which need to be removed. Thanks, Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 23:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
lie
The top of the article says Kansas City redirects here. It doesn't. Presumptive (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Racial Demographics?
The racial demographics do not add up. How can the city be 54% white 46% black and still include other races?
22-June-2008 --Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.124.49.92 (talk) 02:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Tuileries Plaza added to Sites of Interest
Tuileries Plaza is Kansas City's most distinguishing new mixed-use lifestyle center. The enchanting courtyards, tranquil fountains, lush landscaping, rock waterfalls, slate rooftops and brick paved drives add a distinguishing European Old World flair to the rapidly expanding Northland community. The 65 foot tall glass and stone tower monument offers a beautiful night-time light show for all to see. Tuileries Plaza hosts enticing unique restaurants like Bonefish Grill and Em Chamas Brazilian Grill, Häagen-Dazs Ice Cream Shop, Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory, Caribou Coffee, boutique fashion retailers like Posh and Bliss at La~De~Da, unique home décor like La~De~Da, Curtains Bedding and Fabric Gallery, and Enix Ornamental Iron, one-of-a-kind shops like Epic Bike and Sport, specialty services like Ideal Image, professional offices, and others unique to the Kansas City area.
The development features different events year round, including a Summer Concert Series, Festival of Cultures, Children's Fest, sleigh rides during the holidays, and many more.
The charming Children's Garden is located between the lake and the courtyard area. It boasts "kid's size" European Landmarks perfect for parents to bring their kids to climb the Eiffel Tower and Louvre pyramid. Children can also wander through the maze, under the Arc de Triomphe and cool off in the misting river. Tuileries Plaza is located just West of I-29 on NW 64th Street, and just minutes from Downtown and KCI Airport.
We hope you will link our homepage, www.tuileriesplaza.com to Kansas City, MO Sites of Interest.
kathleen@tuileriesplaza.com 7/7/08
99.153.52.219 (talk) 15:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Flag of Kansas City
The flag of Kansas City uploaded by User:Enorton on 30 May 2007 is not correct. I took a photo of the flag in front of City Hall today, 17 July 2008, to make absolutely certain what I had seen in so many other places was the most current design. (The images are at left.) The order of the colors from the mast is blue-white-red, as in the flag of France. It also has the logo of the city, in black, with text above and below it in the center. The text reads: CITY OF FOUNTAINS, HEART OF THE NATION, KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI." The font appears to be "Trajan," which is derived from the Garamond family, and is available from Adobe and other font vendors. The proportion appears to be 2:3, which is unlike the State of Missouri flag or the United States flag, but is probably the most common format for flags, in general. I redrew the flag in .JPG format. The proportions seem correct and it is better than the old one. - - - If someone would redraw this in .SVG format, it would be better. (I do not have a program that makes .SVG files.) Best regards, Charvex (talk) 23:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Picture
Um that picture that was changed isn't very good. The other picture was way better. Im changing it back. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.142.218 (talk) 18:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- The above post was made by me-- I forgot to sign in. The picture that we had before has been used for over 6 months. It shows all the major buildings in our skyline, and is a recognizable view of our skyline that many people would associate with Kansas City. It also makes the city appear "grander" and most people would agree that it looks larger. The shot we have now is NOT commonly associated with our city. When I first saw it, I could barley even recognize Kansas City, as it shows buildings from the back such as the AT&T Longlines building and everything looks meshed together. The person who changed it was from France and isn't even from KC. I have lived in KC for all of my life and can assure you that the picture we had from Soutbound 169 in the northland is a better shot than one from Northbound Highway 70. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 15:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Infobox skyline picture
I'm presenting three possible skyline pictures for opinions. The first by User:Enorton has been in place for about six months. The second by User:Charvex was added early this week and removed by enorton in favor of his own. The third, by myself, is a cropped version of Charvex's based on a suggestion by User:Reddi Please compare the three and support one. This is not a vote, but simply a way to see if there is an obvious consensus.
- Support Charvex's cropped It is a much higher resolution, clearer, and it is much easier to see detail. This is the pic I'd want if the article was an FA. Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Crop the cars out of the bottom picture. The top one should be edited to lighten up the picture ... both are good ... both need further editing. J. D. Redding 19:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please look at the photos in List of United States cities by population to see how these images compare in size and detail to others. Regards, Charvex (talk) 19:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Support Charvex's cropped. But keep the other one around for another part of the article or another article in the metro area. J. D. Redding 19:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- I like the Charvex one :) CloversMallRat (talk) 07:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Support Charvex's - Mainly because it catches some of the buildings at a better angle. But it's a tough call. The Enorton photo includes shots of the KCPT Tower and Pylons. Shooting from north oe south obviously catch different structures. We should make sure both don't get lost.Americasroof (talk) 08:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Support Charvex's cropped. Be sure to keep the others in a gallery though, like on Wikimedia Commons. They're all great. conman33 (. . .talk) 21:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Support Enorton's enhanced. Better panorama, shows more structure. Auror (talk) 23:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I support the Enorton's Enhanced version. It is more colorful. The reason that I believe that my shot is superior to either of Charvex's shots is the fact that Kansas City looks much larger, nicer, and better layed out with this view. It shows a greater panorama and gets all of the major buildings, while Charvex's does not. You can not see the Bartle Pilons as obviously and Commerce Tower is blocked. So is the City Center Square. A skyline image is the "stamp" of uniqueness of a city. When you see KC on the news or in books, they usually show three views. This view from 169, a back view shot from the liberty memorial, or a view shot from Wyandotte County coming towards downtown. You NEVER see the shot that Charvex is showing. I can assure you if you look on any postcard, news skyline shot, or whatever, you will NOT see that shot. Even KCMO's web site shows the shot from the liberty memorial. The shot from southbound 169 is the best I believe. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 00:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely a view from 169 south is a best view, but I'd like a shot that includes the bridges across the missouri. I don't know if there's an angle available that does that well, however. It seems like shooting from the airport would be too close and low, but maybe from near that curve where 169 goes around the airport from the north. I don't know if there'd be a shot from near Briarcliff or whatever that place is called. Another good reason to have a 169 south view is because most non-regional visitors would be entering the city that way from KCI.Subversionarts (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- Support Charvex's - This photograph is much more clear and I feels captures KC better. Tubahero (talk)
- Support Charvex's croppedAlexNebraska (talk) 03:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Total 7 for Charvex, 2 for Enorton," not sure if Subversionarts was just a comment on the view or supporting a version of that picture. Support a version if you have an opinion one way or the other. I agree with Subersionarts that the view from Enorton's picture is better, but overall Charvex's is a much higher quality picture. With the current results I'm going to go ahead and change the pic to Charvex's cropped, this can always be changed if a new consensus develops or we get a better quality picture from 169 south. Grey Wanderer (talk) 19:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
We never had a vote. This was simply just a discussion. No one OBJECTED to any of my comments. I don't see what position of authority you are in to revert that picture back. I will not change the picture yet, but I say you should give it another week or so before making a final decision. No one has yet to counter any of the arguments presented, only that Charvex's photo is of better quality. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 06:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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- It was NOT clear at all. I am changing the picture BACK again. That is NOT a snapshot of our skyline, that's an image of the back of downtown. Let me explain something. The infobox picture is the first picture someone sees of the city. It should show ALL of the important landmarks/buildings. Charvex's picture DOES NOT show the bartle hall pylons. It does not show a good view of One KC Place, Town Pavillion, or 1200 Walnut. You can barley see the commerce tower or city center square. Is all you can really see, is a crappy version of One KC Place, part of the Town Pavillion, City Hall, Bryant Building, and the Oak Building. You also see the very UGLY AT&T Longlines building and the federal building. My shot gets every important part of our skyline. It doesn't matter that his is of better quality, because at that small size it doesn't even matter since the quality doesn't matter at such a small picture. Please DO NOT change it back. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorton (talk o contribs) 04:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
This is enorton, I forgot to sign in. With all due respect, you aren't even from Kansas City. You don't know about our skyline, and I see no reason why you are taking such a stance on this issue. I am changing the picture back. You are also a hippocrite, because you said that this was not a vote. And it's not. NO ONE has argued against my points. That shows me that they were valid and that if anyone has anything to agrue against my points (which were obvioulsy good ones) then the picture could change. But since no one did, then im changing it back. Stop chaning the picture. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.227.238 (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
In my Opinion: "Charvex's photo cropped by Grey Wanderer at half size" works well, it seems a bit clearer. It was cropped nicely too. I also think Enorton has a point about the Pylons not being in the shot, and it's no secret the Loneliness Building is an eyesore. I liked the previous photo, and will continue to use it in my UserPage. Let's all agree KC is too awesome to fit in one picture! ^, ^ Sorry I'm so late to the "Debate"! SakuraAvalon86 (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I like the Charvex photo better. And I live in KC, just to get that out of he way. No it doesn't show some of the more prominent buildings, but it's a much nicer picture. The other picture might lead someone to believe that we have bad air quality or something. I would find a better quality picture that includes the better known landmarks, so that we end all of this debate for good. (Hibbidyhai August 25, 2008) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.129.129 (talk) 00:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I like Charvex's photo better, as well. The simple reason for this is that.. being a KC local, I know most people approach the city from the south, simply because the majority of the metro area is due south of the city. A picture of the skyline from this angle would make for a much more recognized skyline. Besides, this picture is much more colorful, and generally of a better quality. but hey, that's just my opinion. Thanks! topherTRAGEDY --Preceding undated comment was added at 17:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC).
Why aren't we using the classic shot of the city's skyline looking north over Union Station from Penn Valley Park? In my opinion that's unquestionably the most iconic view of the city's skyline, and it also highlights some of the city's most significant low buildings (Union station, the Kauffman Center, the Sprint Center, and Bartle Hall). Plenty of great shots taken from this vantage are available under acceptable licenses. Feis-Kontrol (talk) 04:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Kansas City, Kansas
IMHO there should be some sort of prominent mention of this "other" city in the KCMO article, if only because of the confusion engendered by having two neighboring cities with the same name but in different states. The situation should be pointed out specifically and addressed in the article. Lou Sander (talk) 22:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Notable people list
There are more than enough names in the notable people list to justify a seperate article. Recommend the notable people template be used.
In addition, references for the entries need to be added. -- Absolon S. Kent (chat), 04:07, Friday, October 16, 2015 (UTC)
Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art
It is only mentioned under architecture for its Euro-Style addition in 2008. It wasn't even linked to the main article. Shouldn't it be also mentioned as an Art Museum in section Culture? I think it's one of the important Art Museums of the USA. Hoverfish Talk 19:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Kansas City capitol
Well this doesnt say anything about Two states have a city named Kansas City. Name the state that calls Kansas City its capital.
Numerous mistakes in article
I have tried editing articles before, and I am not very good at it, plus they modified some within 24 hours anyhow.
They have the December and alltime low temp. for Kansas City as -19 deg. F. It hit -22 deg. F. in Dec 1989. (fix the Celcius also) They have the average annual snowfall as 12.6 inches. It is 19.9 inches (fix the metric also) They have the length of the street the Paseo as 19 miles. Not possible, it would be approximately 9 miles. They have The first casino facility in the state opened in September 1994 in North Kansas City by Harrah's Entertainment. The Argosy
in Riverside, MO opened a few months earlier.
Kansas City definitely has a Jackson County Courthouse (branch?) but I am not sure if it is a county seat. Independence is the only county seat
as far as I know, but I may be wrong.
I would guess West Port is 4 or 5 miles from the river, not 3 as listed, but I am just guessing. The little map of Downtown should say Bruce R. Watkins Drive, not just Bruce R. Watkins. The funny thing is, it was named after Watkins who
spent many years opposing its construction.
-Andrew Goldblatt 66.143.32.53 (talk) 04:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Independence and Kansas City, Missouri are both county seats, though Independence is the original. There are few sources, however, to back this up, so the data will be monitored and edited accordingly.Madd0817 (talk) 09:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
The record low is actually -23 deg F. in on Dec. 22, 1989. I would fix it if I could find a citation. I can verify the temperature from wuderground.com, but not that it's a record. Jbo5112 (talk) 01:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
"Unity" religion?
there's unity temple, and unity villiage --- do they get a mention? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.251.194.21 (talk) 16:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
'Cityscape' Section
The 'Cityscape' section reads like a brochure. Can someone please clean it up to be more neutral and less of an advertisement? Ben (talk) 18:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Real Location?
I'm fairly confident Kansas City, Missouri is actually Kansas City, Kansas. After all I have visited Missouri several times and know well how proud the Missourians are and their deep seated jealousy of Kansas. My father was a native Kansian and felt the hate of many a Missourian when he moved there in 1980 because he wanted nothing more than to happily live the bland life that can be so easily found in Missouri. He was finally able to achieve that goal only once he agreed to deny his home town of Kansas City as well as the state of kansas as a whole. I have been happy to educate you in this matter, please address this problem immediately. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.248.9.162 (talk) 04:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
I will. Te he. Grey Wanderer (talk) 09:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
2010 Population
I'm pretty sure I'm not losing my mind but the 2010 population figure under Demographics keeps changing back and forth between 459,000 and 507,000. and I'm talking it changing within seconds of viewing the page. Hit Reload and the number changes. Either someone is currently editing this number (although I checked the edit log and don't see any activity regarding it) or I need to see a doctor. 76.250.255.4 (talk) 03:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)Shawn
Please Merge the unnecessary "Religion" section into the "Culture" section
There is no need for the Religion section to even exist, but if it does it should be under culture. NOT it's on multi-layered section. Similar section in other articles are formatted that way. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.87.146.9 (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Yes, most cities don't have large religion sections and it comes across as proselytizing. I've removed the favoritism and posted straight stats. Those who post about their favorite religion need to be banned. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.74.138 (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Good idea to just post stats. The religious fanatics were trying to entice people to their beliefs - evangelicals are loud and annoying and yet represent smallest portion. I made a few minor clarifications to the stats. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.100.230 (talk) 18:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
User 'Hald' needs to be banned from the religion section. He is promoting religious favorites, which other city sites do not do. Is best to just show stats. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.74.192 (talk) 20:51, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Visual Arts Section?
Would someone be interested in adding a Visual Arts section under the Culture heading? As director of a KC arts organization I understand that I am not the one to write it, but KC does have a thriving arts scene with organizations such as the Urban Culture Project/Charlotte Street Foundation and the H & R Block Artspace, new galleries such as Cara and Cabezas and Bill Brady, and artist-run spaces such as Plug Projects and the Subterranean Gallery (none of these are my home organization.) 65.69.169.137 (talk) 17:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Population Not Verifiable
Some user has changed the population to 510,245 when the 2010 Census counted 459,787. Unless there is verifiable content to validate this, the data needs to reflect official data.
As a matter of fact, I am going to change it back to the 2010 data, because it is verifiable. If there's any dispute, feel free to talk with me.Madd0817 (talk) 19:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
"North-land"
re: "one newer neighborhood just minutes from downtown is Briarcliff, though it is in the so-called "North-land" or simply "North of the River". "
It's a minor point, but I lived in Clay and Platte Counties for more than 50 years, and I've never once seen "Northland" with a hyphen in the middle.
Also, to say it is "so-called" isn't quite right. About 50 percent of Kansas City's geographic area lies in Clay and Platte county, and as far as I know, there's no "so-called" about it.
Nor is "North of the River" the simplified name.
Whether it's referred to as "Northland" or "North of the River" seems to depend on the way it's used. (e.g.: "I lived in the Northland for most of my life." or "I lived North of the River." Most Northlanders use the former.)
I'm sorry I can't cite any sources for this. All I can say is that the two names are a matter of common usage, and "the Northland" is also the usual designation on political maps. I have no idea which use came first (maps or common usage), or even whether they originated before Kansas City Manager L.P. Cookingham annexed the area (in the late 1950s, I think).
Also, before the Northland's population boomed in the '80s and '90s, "the Northland" was also a district designation in the same class as "Westport," "Midtown," and "The Plaza." This has probably changed to allow for the population increase, but there again, I'm not sure.
I would have signed up and edited out the hyphen and the "so-called" myself -- but without citations, I wouldn't really be helping. Also, it almost sounds as if the original author was trying to say something that isn't quite clear.
I figured I'd leave it to you to decide whether to make a change or not.
Regards, Kathleen C
75.81.19.162 (talk) 04:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
"Google Fiber"
Kansas City should probably advertise Google's internet effort. It is a good attraction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xRPA0CjJg http://www.quora.com/Google-Fiber/What-is-Googles-goal-with-Google-Fiber https://fiber.google.com/cities/#header=check -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.23.110.151 (talk) 15:55, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
We're not in Kansas anymore
We all know the famous quote from "The Wizard of Oz". Author L. Frank Baum once traveled drunk on a bicycle over the bridge from Kansas City, Kansas, to Kansas City, Missouri, accompanied by his dog. Suddenly he began to laugh like a madman and cried out: "We're not in Kansas anymore, yet still in Kansas City." He laughed and laughed and finally included that phrase into his (then) newly written book "The Wizard of Oz", according to literatur professor Joseph P. Stern in a TV interview. It should be included in the article. 93.219.129.19 (talk) 15:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Sporting Kansas City
The article states: "Professional sports teams in Kansas City include the Kansas City Chiefs in football, the Kansas City Royals in baseball, and Sporting Kansas City in soccer." As Sporting KC plays in KCK, this statement is factually incorrect. Since Sporting is nonetheless associated with local culture, I think it's still worth a mention in the article (and after all, the two KCK casinos are mentioned in the article), but what would be the best way to reflect this and retain accuracy? Against the current (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Climate
I grew up south of KC about 50 miles and there's a mistake in the climate/weather section. It states the record low temp was -22 set in 1899 and it was until December of 1989 when it reached -23 two nights in a row. I was only 13 but I remember it well. The local tv stations will back up what I say. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD3F:9570:E043:58B9:DABC:5F53 (talk) 01:40, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Request for comment - religion
Not wanting to edit war, would editors kindly review the edits made to the "Religion" section made by 66.87.74.192? Thanks! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. I propose showing the stats of religions rather than promoting specific religions and certain churches.
The proportion of Kansas City area residents with a known religious affiliation is 49.7% .[47]
- None/No affiliation 50.3%
- Catholic 12.82%
- Other Christian 7.15%
- Baptist (African American denominations) 6.72%
- Baptist (Other) 6.46%
- Methodist 5.87%
- Pentecostal 2.60%
- LDS 2.48%
- Lutheran 2.30%
- Presbyterian 1.64%
- Episcopalian 0.54%
- Jewish 0.41%
- Eastern 0.37%
- Islam 0.35%
Here is the source... http://www.bestplaces.net/religion/metro/missouri/kansas_city
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperling%27s_BestPlaces -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.75.33 (talk) 21:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Agree with only showing the % for all religions rather than the old format, which did look like certain people were promoting their own religion/church. Just looked at Hald's profile and it's self-described as 'charismatic' religious. Is pretty clear that person hijacked the religion section. Is better to be fair to all and show the breadth of beliefs and non-beliefs that represents KC through sources, not the specific interests of charismatic types. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.100.230 (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
The old format was favoring some religion/churches/orgs and not others. The % list is much better and is fair. It's now a better representation and the old format did need to be replaced even if by various authors. The ones mostly elaborated on represented less than 5% of KC each, those over 5% were not even mentioned. The % list clearly shows a better picture about religion in KC, not the promotion by various evangelists. Looking at other city sites, they don't go overboard on promoting ones favorite religion. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.100.230 (talk) 23:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that is way overboard compared to the religion section of other cities. The % list much better represents religion in KC. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.100.230 (talk) 23:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Zip Codes
The list of zip codes in the info box is too long, and they should probably be eliminated. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.56.13.119 (talk) 18:43, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Structure
Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 16:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Timeline of Kansas City, Missouri
What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 12:41, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
"the Troost Wall"
These links might be useful for this article:
- http://info.umkc.edu/unews/tearing-down-the-troost-wall/
- https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/07/kc-2300.jpg&w=1484
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/16/how-railroads-highways-and-other-man-made-lines-racially-divide-americas-cities/
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